Jimbo Paris Show #83 – A Better Attitude for a Better Future. (Fred Kienle)

Hi, I'm Jimbo Paris, and you're listening to the Jimbo Paris show. All right, how's it going? Everyone? This is Jimbo Paris here. Today we have Fred. He's an author, keynote speaker, motivational speaker and he's here to give us a bit of a gist on, you know, the culture of improving the attitude of the everyday employee. So let's see what he has to say.

Hello, Jimbo, how the heck do you do? I'm doing?

Great, great. All the time.

Yeah, I'm doing fine. You already looked like you had a good attitude. So where are you? Okay, you're up? You're up in what?

Baltimore, Maryland.

Maryland. Okay, great. And I think Katrina is like, Oh, we're in the Philippines. How did that happen?

Very long story. So speaking of who you are, kind of give me a gist

Very long story. Okay. Yeah, I really appreciate you having me on. I'm honored. I love talking about changing people's attitude. My whole prospect about life is change your attitude. You can change your life, you can change it to the negative side just by changing your attitude. And you can also change it to the positive side just by changing your attitude. Everything I do is centered around attitude. And it makes it. It applies to everything you do everything I do. It revolves around attitude. of you know who you are, what you're about and what your messages. I'd love to know. Okay. 77 years old. Throughout life, I've been a paperboy and got yards when I was you know, 11, 12 years old, busboy an electrician over lunch in construction, most of my life. I went to work here in the Dallas Fort Worth area to two prominent big companies. One was Texas Instruments. The other one was Raytheon. I work for them were 22 years. In maintenance. I started out as electrician that I became a supervisor of Six Sigma expert. I did a lot of training and teaching and ethics, safety and Six Sigma. And I love sharing what I've learned. And I've learned by trial and error, mostly by the mistakes I've made. They're the best teacher in the world. I've learned by those mistakes, things that I've learned just by being on the job, how important a person's attitude is, I was a musician for 25 years in El Paso, Texas. That's where I was born and raised. And I still love playing music. And I think music is an international language forever. You can't you can't beat music for changing personalities. And what it's gotten me to where I am now I've written four books, three of them. One is called success with an attitude. The other is called Health with an attitude. And this one I've just released called Leadership with an Attitude. Then I was in with Mike Rodriguez and five other authors. We did a book called a better plan. And that was they've all been nicely successful. I've been very pleased with the results and the ability to share with other people.

What do you like to share?

Well, my opinion in my results about attitude. That's the main thing, how important a person's attitude. I am blessed by being able to do a lot of assisted living homes and senior communities. And I love most of all doing my attitude seminars, because a lot of folks especially in the they start reaching elderly agents and stuff, they start thinking that oh, it's all done, I'm hot, you sit back and you know that que sera, sera, whatever will be will be, and you're just kind of let the day go on. And I, I, I love to go in and see their faces when they start inspiring them, motivating them and tell them man, you're not done yet. I'm 77 I'm still writing books, I'm singing, I'm doing singing concert, hopefully doing live again during this COVID stuff. And if you're not that start do something, whatever it is, you feel like you want to do do it. Get these people motivated, especially about their health, and my book health with an attitude and my seminars helped with an attitude and love sharing that with everybody I can because your attitude has so much to do with how healthy you are or if you have a health issue issued, how important it is and how helpful it is to build your immune system back up and make you feel better, healthier, faster, quicker and better. Attitudes important.

What is attitude?

Okay, well, you're sitting there and what do you think when you got up this morning? How did you feel? Happy, tired. Oh, I got this to do today. You know,

A little bit like even keel

Yeah, okay, so you get up and you can go one way or the other. Say you gotta get up. You look down. You got to walk outside. You got a flat tire. Yeah. You know what? You're not gonna go anywhere to fix it the same way with you attitude, you're not going to have a successful day. If you're not going to fix your attitude, you can start out here you can either be down or you can be up a little bit. Whatever it is, like encourage people to change your attitude. Everybody's Well, you know, Tom Ziglar, Zig Ziglar's son taught me the attitude grid. And I tried to live up to it. And we were taught you're always at up. No, no, I get up the same way you get? I don't know. No, thanks, dude, I didn't sleep good. You know, worried about this, I'm just coming up. Watch the news for two minutes. And you're already in a mad bad mood. And right away, I gotta change my attitude. And you have to do that by saying positive affirmations. Like, you know what, no matter what we're going to get through this couldn't be a better day was just flaring up on me something's going on my health is is I feel tired, I got a headache, it's gonna get better. When you start saying those things out loud, changing your attitude to a positive mental state, your chemical balance changes, your body starts responding. The endorphins are released, serotonin and melatonin, all of these chemicals start making you feel better. Hearing your endorphins or cell healer, just change your attitude. That's what your attitude is about. It's about your mood and your mindset. You make better decisions, when you're in a good mood. You make positive decisions. So I always said, you know, having a positive attitude or having positive thinking will not allow you to do everything. But it will allow you to do everything better than a negative attitude. That's just common sense. When you're in a good mood, things move a lot quicker, you could solve problems easier. Your frame of mind is better, you're more relaxed. When you're in a bad mood. It's hard to think your your minds all cloudy, you're worried about too many things. Too many things cloud your decision, and they start to inhibit your body being healthier. That's what attitude is. It's everything. A thing by Charles Swindoll, he wrote a thing that week long thing about attitude how important it was. And his ending statement is your life your attitude resolves, revolves around your attitude, because it's 10% of what happens to you, and 90% of how you react to it. And if you're 90% of reacting to whatever situation is, is negative, we're in a bad mood, your results aren't going to be near the same or as successful as if you do it with a positive. That's your attitude. Makes sense.

So how did attitude improve your life?

Every day. 33 years ago, I was walking along I had a pain in my left ankle. What does that really swell up felt bad. And so I took two aspirin, pain when four hours later the pain came back. Two more aspirin. Four hours, five hours later pain came back two more. So I did that for about a month. Now I got a pain in my side. I thought What is this? I thought well, yep. Two more effort is not going to help that. So I went, I went to the doctor, he said, Well, we're gonna put you in the hospital and run some tests. So they ran some tests. And what they found out was they had a duodenal ulcer. And the doctor said, you know that aspirin had been taken. I said, Yes, sir. She's taken it was uncoated. It was eaten a hole in my stomach. I said, Okay, I can do that. So I could take any aspirin. Two days later, when I woke up, every bone, every joint in my body hurt so that I never felt that kind of pain all over my body. I moved my finger blink, my eyes, everything hurt. Went back to the doctor. And I asked what's going on? So we ran a few more tests found out I have a serious case of debilitating rheumatoid arthritis. And I said, Well, okay, Doc, what does? What does debilitating me? And he said, Well, Fred, he painted me a pretty nasty picture. It says, it's not going to go away. And it's only going to get worse. Man, what do you mean? So Well, a couple of years, you're probably going to have to have some hip replacements and you know, your bones are going to deteriorate and get all deform. And yeah. What? Well, I've always been blessed with a good attitude. I always look for the silver lining. I'm not just the half, you know, the glass is always half full to me. I always know the glass can be refilled. Okay. So it's always some half fold, filling it back up again. And so I looked at that doctor and said, No, no, it's not. I am not going to let this arthritis whatever it is, take control of me. I'm going to take control with that. I'm going to do everything that you asked me to do. I'm going to take the medication, I'm an Exercise, whatever it takes. But I'm going to fight it with this. My heart, my soul, and my brain and my attitude. So right every day, I will say this, my body's going to beat this arthritis, it's going to not let it take over my body. And I say these things out loud because saying things out loud. You hear it your brain hears it and your brain would start reacting to it. So here it is. 33 later, 33 some odd years later, every doctor I've talked to says, You know what, it's really amazing as you you responded to all the treatments, everything like that. And your attitude has played a major role in your, you know, this land longevity of not succumbing to this severe case of arthritis. And I approach everything I do that same way, this is going to be a good day, this is going to be a great day, oh, this air conditioner goes out. Let's get it, let's find a way to find a solution. There's a solution, there's a silver lining here. Now the air conditioner and it didn't catch on fire and burn my house down. Let's get into it, and find a way to do it. If it's a money problem, you find a way to make a few dollars more get it paid for your attitude is important. And, and I was in, like I said construction most of my life. And I've seen some horrible accidents. I've even been the cause of some. So safety is important. But safety at the LMI safety seminars, they say safety is not just a big bunch of set of rules and regulations. It's about going home to your family. Without your toes or your fingers, both your eyes. God forbid you go to the hospital or the morgue, and it's about everybody's personal responses. Safety is not on a company's fault. It's not it's not their total responsibility. They have to put the rules and regulations out there. But you, you, you, every one of us out here have to follow those rules. So we can go home to our wives and her husband and her kids. It's our responsibility. So everything we do about finances, relationships, attitude, attitude, attitude, attitude, that's why attitude is my, my main mantra

Was your attitude always good?

Most of the time. When I was a kid, you know, we didn't have much money growing up. My parents were divorced when I was 11. And we would go around were some of these construction sites where we find out pieces of wood and bent nails and stuff. Like we'd fill things we'd always look for stuff to do. We didn't just sit and say, Oh, well, we don't have anything. We always managed to have, you know, some Campbell's soup or some bologna sandwiches for lunch or something. Yeah, well, there was food somewhere. My mom struggled a lot. And God bless her for what she did for us, me and my sisters, two kids. And we did, we did fine. And like, at age two, my friend and I we'd get the old push motors, they weren't power motors, we'd go out and mow yards and pair a hand clippers and trim yards for a buck and a half. You know, but we made enough money to buy, you know, model airplanes to build something to buy or help out somewhere. But there was always I don't know, if you remember the little rascals or the our gang comedy. You remember, Ash, they would always go up and down the alleys. This whole group of kids and they do the same thing. They they make their own fun, they create a better attitude. They wouldn't just whine and complain. They would create their own attitude.

So how do you create an attitude?

What? Change your mindset. If you're sitting there thinking, I'm boring? There's nothing to do. This is a powerful to start thinking of, well, what can I do? Since I'm bored? There's nothing to do here. What else can I do? You know what you know as well? You're an IT guy. Right? Right. And this started in both your these shows you do, which I'm going to ask you a little bit about those are great. You got two of them going. And, and what happens, we're in the age of this technology, and these kids are smarter than we are with these computers, punch Google something, whatever it is, what can I do about being bored, I'll bet you that couldn't handle all the information. Somewhere in there. There's something you like something, she likes something, somebody else likes something they could do, oh, I could do this, I could do that I could do that. It's not up to the world, to make you happy to create to change your attitude to give you everything. It's up to the individual to find out who they are, what they like to do. Try different things. create their own mindset. And then with that, your attitude automatically starts getting better. That's how you change. You have to you have to be proactive and you can't just sit and wait for it to come to you. You have to do something about it. That's things ask yourself, What can I do?

So now you're getting into the idea of passions, or how did you begin to find your first set of passions, especially when you started to run those small businesses?

Well, the first passion I had was music. I always liked. You know, I always see these play guys in a band playing guitars and stuff like that. So that's what I do. And I love being a musician. I love being onstage I love I love entertaining. People, whether it's singing during the speech, sharing my knowledge, or just playing, telling jokes, I love telling stories. I love telling stories with an Irish accent. It's always so much more fun. But I love making people enjoy themselves. And so with that kind of when I the passion I had to become a musician was paramount. And I had an old guitar and my sister took some steel guitar lessons had this old, crummy little wooden guitar that, that the bridge raised up on it. And she took a few lessons and I go down there and watch and she quit taking the lessons. I looked at guitar. And I think if you take that tall, bridge out and do it, how do you turn it up to make a regular guitar? And I about about 1213 years old, asked a few people, they said, here's what you do, went to a music store down the street from me. Here's how to tune it up. Okay, here's a couple of chords, E, A, E, and B. That's all you need, you know, C, D, and F, C, G and F. Yeah. Those three chords got me started. I self taught myself how to play. Are you doing nothing. And that will lead to getting another guy, a friend of mine, we both played guitar together, we got a drummer and started a three piece group. Because there was passion and a desire. And that's why you have to find your own passion. You know, they'd say, Well, what are you passionate about? And you find lady, you find these ladies that are doing crocheting, or, you know, sewing these blankets, making these quilts. They have a passion for it. So what you have to find and look for the things that make you happy. And you'll know if you start looking for him, you'll find do you like doing these shows? Do you like doing what you do? Jim? You like to be called Jimbo or James?

Just call me Jimbo.

Sure you have a passion for it. And that's why you're good at it. Why it's successful.

That's why I'm on episode 83.

There you go. And so you have to have that passion. How did you find that? Did you just sit and wait for it to come to you?

I had to do work.

There you go. And you say I like doing this. I like riding horses. I like training horses. I like doing this. I like swimming. I like teaching swimming. I like whatever. It doesn't matter what it is. I love to create period. I like to write songs. I like to write books. I like to write jokes. I like to I like to paint your Bob Ross on TV memory, his paintings and everything.

Yeah, yeah. The guy with the afro Yeah.

Yeah. With the Afro hair. I loved it. Yeah, great, great. And I got a couple of pitch pictures around the house that I painted because of him, I feel proud of him because they look pretty darn good. He's just act of doing things. You find things that you'd like to do, do them and when you can do them well, and you get better at it and create an income from it. Oh my gosh, what a blessing that is. You know, I've been doing these seminars through COVID The last two years with this crazy COVID stuff. Thanks to this media, I got a Zoom account. I do all over Texas. I do zoom presentations of safety with an attitude leadership with an attitude safety with an attitude, you know, health with an attitude, faith with an attitude. All my seminars are done that way. So it's Gosh, and what I have to do when COVID here, and I couldn't do them live, here's the internet, I had to learn how to get on with you. What did you do zoom? What do you do this? How do you create a new cat? What do you do? So that's, and I'm 77 they say? Well, I'm too old for this internet stuff. Oh, you're not, you don't have to be an actor, you don't have to know how to fix it or get in and do that. All you have to do is know how to use it. And now that if you can get in on the internet just a little bit, you can YouTube anything and I'll teach you how to do. I'll teach you how to change the brakes on your car, you know, doesn't matter. So there's no excuse if you want to if you have a desire to you can do. And if you have that attitude, a positive attitude will let you do that a negative attitude. It won't.

So we talked a lot about your entrepreneurship. But what about being an author? How did your attitude impact that?

I've always wanted to write and I like writing songs with music and that's great. But everyone's just saying what can I write I tried writing a novel and I thought well, I I might in the future and I'm still working on that. But it's my didn't feel like I do but I started out with doing a thing called success with an attitude because I was going through a drive in one of these fast food restaurants. And you talk to the Squawk Box over there and you're pregnant and they enter back report. Whoa, can you can understand, and I knew the kid on the other side wasn't listening. So when I got up to the window, I drove off I opened the bag. Everything was wrong. I thought I said all the wrong thing. That stupid dump. What's wrong with the kids is done by blankety blank. God touch me on the shoulder it says do something about it. Do something about what am I tend to do. You've taught stuff at work. Your teacher, your trainer, you have a good attitude. What can you show these kids? He said, they're good kids. Nothing wrong with them. They're just not taught how to be polite how to say yes or no, sir how to pay attention, how to listen, a couple of simple skills and said, I could do that. So I started out writing a seminar on it. So I could go to high schools and stuff like that, maybe teach it. And the more I wrote down the seminar and did the PowerPoint to it, I said, I could take each one of these foils that I've written when I will 10 simple scales, people skills, asset, I could, I could put this in a book form. So I started writing a book. And luckily, I got tied into a group of people. That is phenomenal. I know you're familiar with the name Zig Ziglar. Right, you, Zig Ziglar Zig Ziglar. He's our global, he was a global

Zig what? motivational speaker. The the name sounds familiar, yeah,

Just just google him. And he's got 100,000 quotes out. He's up there with Ken Blanchard, you know, Jim, Jim Rohn. All of these folks, Brian, all of these folks. So he's a highly positive mental attitude guy. And I called his office, I found out it was here in Dallas, and I called his office and I said, you know, can I sit down and talk to this guy? Because I've loved this tapes, and all these training material. And lovely lady lawmaker said, No, I can't get you in to see Zig. He's pretty busy. But I can get you in to see his right hand man, which was Brian Flanagan. So I went to his office and interviewed with him. And he introduced me to a lady that did a lot of book stuff, or the book portion. And through that, I found some other connections. And I got my book, published success with an attitude and all it is about 10 Simple skills, on how to improve, you know, get employed for one, how to stay employed, how to get better raises, how to do all these things. And it came out pretty good. And I started doing a thing on health, for the seniors at the seniors, communities. And same thing, I can write a book on their leadership themes, same thing I'm working on to others got to be working on for a while, and I hope to do at least one of them this year. And one next year. Just this last one, leadership is just found out that I hear everybody complain, it's just, you know, I'm not a boss or anything like that. I can't be the leader. And I tell him, I said, No, you know what, you don't have to be the boss. To be a leader, you can be a janitor, you can be the guy that takes care of the lawn outside the landscape guy, you can be a painter on them on a team of mechanics that keep the building running, you can be you know, administrative assistant. And they all say I'm just, I'm just at this, I'm not a leader. I was just an electrician. But I was proud of what I did. And so when I did my work, and the people saw, I bent pipes and made everything look good. And we took pride, putting a panel together. All of a sudden, they look to me as a leader in that field. I didn't know I didn't have to be a leader or anything like that. And you know what? Next thing I know, they were asking me to be a group leader, then I became a supervisor and then bumped down at Six Sigma expert. And then I became, you know, to the management field. And it's a lot of people don't want to be leader. They don't want to be a supervisor thing. But unbeknownst to them, you can be the best janitor in your field. And I had one of the guys on the on the cleaning crew. So how do you do that? I'm one of the companies I said, Well, you have it you have computer? Yep, you get on the internet. Just google how to be the best janitor How to Be a Good janitor. And I've done that with every position out there. tons of things came hacks on how to what cleaning fluids to use, what's the best way to clean a mirror? What's the best way to make for shine and make it stay that way longer. All of a sudden, you become a leader in that field and all the other janitors and people on the cleaning crew start looking at you like how do you do that you become a leader in your field. The value you add every company is important and in leadership with yet with an attitude. Because said I'm busting the myths that get don't have to be the boss to be a leader. So that if you go if you want a job done and you you're you're looking for a company to do it, and you drive up into the parking lot, and the parking lot has holes in the driveway, and it's a mess, DR, it's not mowed. You walk up to the door and the door handles kind of loose and you open it and it kind of you walk in and the first person you see on the desk is Yeah, can I help you? All of a sudden, you want to do business with him? No. So I tell everybody from the ground up to the CEO, every position every person in this company is valuable. They add value, they add strength and your position is valuable. So don't think of yourself I'm just oh you're not just you're a valuable part of this corporation without you. This company will not be successful. And the more successful you are in your position, the more successful the company is going to be. So it's just a value added to every person out there. And I've had a lot of guys tell me and gals tell me, I used to think I was just a file clerk. But now I know that if I file this, right, everything's gonna work fine. It's simple. It's a simple equation. So that's, that's the passion of what I do love showing people that they're important. You're important with what you do, you probably don't realize that you've probably cut in 83 episodes, you've probably touched more lives. And you can even realize it. You know what I was watching the Jimbo Paris show, this idiot on air talks about attitude. But you know, you'd wait, maybe I'm gonna change my attitude. Soon, you're touching lifes that you don't you put it, we call it the pebble in the pond, it's in that ripples. You never know what you're saying. It's going to touch what your show is going to add value to. And I've looked at a couple of your shows. And I'll tell you what you bring on a variety of people that touch different people might show today probably will touch everybody, but it's going to touch somebody out there. And they'll touch somebody, and they'll touch somebody. That's what I mean, your advice, and the things that you share, and the things that you do well, are valued to everybody else around you.

And to get back to you, though, I think my fascination is, what's your ripple effect? You're a 76 year old man, you know, you seem to impact a lot of people with your four books and your multiple businesses, what effect are you most proud?

Okay, I can several different ways. One, if I'm doing a live performance, which I love to do, because, you know, well, probably in your your status to being in front of a live audience is you get feedback instantly. So when I'm there, and I'm talking about motivating people about their health, and I see some of the seniors set up and think shaking their heads, and some of them take notes. But some of them come up afterwards. And they say, I needed that kind of message today. I've been down in the dumps. I get up in the morning and right away, I just feel terrible, terrible. And they go to they go through the whole thing that way. So and when I've come back and done other seminars, that same place, I've had people come back up to me and say, You know what, I've been practicing what to do with put a list up on my mirror. And I said today is going to be a good day, whatever issue I had, I got migraines, what my bike, my migraines are going to be better. It's really helped. It's not a cure all. But changing your attitude helps. Same with safety. I don't know if you were privileged to go to any safety meetings at any corporation you worked at, were you? Well,

no.

Okay, well, if you've ever been to some of them, they're

luckily unnecessary evil. And they're about as boring as watching paint dry. You can sit there, watch a fly, crawl up a drape. And that's like, that's more exciting than somebody's training session, but it got to have them. And what I tell a lot of these companies, cities and corporations is it, every training session has a nugget in it somewhere along the line is going to help somebody be safer. So when I encourage these workers and stuff, because I've not gone to these training sessions, I've taught some of them. And they're the most boring things to teach in the world. It's terrible. But I tell them, what nugget can you get out of that? If you go to a training session, that's an hour long, if you've got two minutes of valuable information out of that, it's gonna make a difference in you going home tomorrow night with both your eyes. I asked, am I saying you go home and play catch with your kid or something like that? Oh, yeah. So you realize that if you don't wear your safety goggles, or you don't do this, right, you put your eyes out, you can't do that anymore. It's not about the company's rules and regulations about you and your family. God, it's just everything. So my, the reward I get is when I see somebody change their attitude, and do better at what they do be proud of what they do be healthier because of what they do or what I said, What I the knowledge, I've gained what I've given back to him, I didn't come up with all this knowledge myself. It's just stuff I've learned and we gert. I'm just telling, giving it back out that I've learned. So like you said, and 77 years, by if nothing but mistakes, you've learned a lot. And so sharing that knowledge is his death reward. When I write a book, and I see somebody out there, I go to my account, I'd see, hey, I sold a couple books today. Somebody's gonna read that book, or share it with somebody. It's somewhere in there, they're gonna figure it out. That's what I need to do that to my ripple effect. I know that. And I don't know how many people like touched. I hope it's a gazillion. That's my legacy that I want to leave. Excellent. Excellent. And what are some of your best success stories that you've gotten from people that you've touched?

One lady was speaking of health, because I talked about, you know, I would go to this one big hospital here in the Dallas Fort Worth area that has a training group every

30 in the morning, they would have some oncologist, a cancer specialist, come into the hospital and give this big long lecture, I would go diligently for a long time and take notes. What they talked about was way over my head, I didn't understand a word they said. But what I did understand was, I would go up there, the main purpose for me being there was to go there and say, how important is the attitude of your patients in the treatment of cancer, you'd never guess what they said. They said, hands down, everyone that has a positive attitude or approaches it with a good mood, a good mindset, they respond much better to the radiation treatment, chemotherapy, they recover from cancer more quickly, faster, quicker and better than those with a negative attitude. And so my reward to success story was a couple of folks have come up to me that they were going through some serious cancer treatments. And they would come up and say, You know what, when I went to my next chemotherapy session, and my radiation treatment, I went in there with the mindset is, instead of God, it's gonna be sick after this all I'm gonna be terrible, it's more hair is gonna fall out. It's not it's not a good experience. But they went in with the attitude that I'm going to go ahead and change my mindset, stand up straight, I'm not going to change my physical chemistry in my body, I'm gonna go in there with the fact that this is going to help me beat this cancer. And I'm going to go through whatever it takes to get through this chemotherapy, radiation treatment, and I'm gonna come I'm gonna walk out of here, knowing that it helped me, they started responding better, and, and not being as sick as they were, after these radiation treatments and therapy, gotta teach because it's something I said, you don't think that just made me feel great. Now the success stories, I love being I love playing music. And we were in El Paso, Texas, there was a club called the Knights club, at a roadway. And that was near the airport, it was very prominent club. And we had a group called the sixth column. And we were the house band there for 13 years, four nights a week, I had a daytime job being an electrician that night, four nights a week, using people would come and have a good time, people would come in, whatever their cares, were, whatever they were worried about doing that day or whatever, they'd come there, we'd have fun. We love telling the story joke, that joke with them on the stage. And the whole group was great. And being the kingpin of that group, and the hardest part about a band is keeping everybody happy, and motivated and together. And we did great for 13 years, we did a fantastic job there and had a good following. And I know we made a lot of people happy. They'd always come and say, Oh, he played this song like that. It's so and other bands would come and say, God, I wish we could do what you're doing. They're the same club. So it's just those kind of success stories. Plus being at work at TI and Raytheon for 22 years. They always talk to me. I always whistle blown up and down the hallway, this whistle all the time. A few people didn't like it, but you can't please everybody. But most of the people, even the group leaders and the Presidents and Vice Presidents have separate sections of these pretty high. It's a huge corporation. They always say you know what? I hear you going up down the hallway and everything you do. You're always positive. You always make I hear you westman up down the hallway, I think that goes that guy again. And they get a smile on their face. That's kind of ripples company can't help but make you feel good that you've changed their attitude for nothing. It's like when you walk up to somebody in a grocery store or Walmart or something and the guy or gal at the register, you know, they're not in a good mood or something. You walk up. Hey, hi, how are you doing today? You're doing a good job here. Boom, obviously, smile at him. All of a sudden you change your attitude. Those are the kinds of ripples I helped create, that I tried to create.

You've been doing music for about 25 years, so that must be a serious passion of yours.

Oh god, I love music. And just recently, in El Paso I started doing the singles act that I just did pre recorded music, almost like karaoke on it put on a show, you know, put on my suit and they could do singing. And I do a little Vegas show that Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, you know those kinds of salts, a lot of Neil Gaiman and Elvis. I also do a tribute to Elvis I'm not I'm not Elvis impersonator, but it seemed pretty good. And I get the song across and I do a tribute to him to Buddy Holly, and I'm working on a date with diamond and love Neil Diamond songs, which I loved, and I'm working on another one. Orbison, if you get a chance, I know you'd like music. So go out there and watch a little bit of over an hour of Roy Orbison black and white with Bruce Springfield. It's got all these other a whole group of famous musicians all got together for this kind of and then Roy Orbison does a job and it's just fantastic artists and putting a group like that, but what I'm trying to do is get back in after this COVID start settling down a little bit, start doing the single thing that I love to do for the seniors at these for assisted living, you cannot find a better audience. They love having people come in. And I love to joke with them seem to him and watch a lot of these people with dementia and Alzheimer's, Jimbo, all of a sudden you watch the mouse start moving, they start to remember they start singing the words along with you. They start there's a little bit of sparkle in their eye, there's a little bit more of a connection and because music, it creates memories, it brings memories forth, and just seeing them get up and enjoy the music and have fun. I love performing. I thought that I just want to be a good singer, I want to, I just want to entertain, whether it's doing the speech, sharing my knowledge, whether it's telling jokes, or it's I love to do or singing, entertain just being an entertainer is what I want to be.

Forgive me if this is a bit of a mundane question, but what's the difference between a speaker and entertainer?

Okay, a speaker gets up and can impart knowledge, can share thoughts give a great speech on a PowerPoint or whatever they're teaching, whatever their whatever they came to tell you about. But an entertainer, an entertainer gets up there. And just effervescence there attitude, their passion, their desire, their knowledge doesn't just speak, it doesn't just be a speaker there he is a speaker if you can emote, fanning's passions and inspire people encourage him, not just educate him. That's what a speaker does. But if you can be a speaker and entertainer all those together, that's what makes these keynote speakers desirable. You can evoke passion, inspiration, motivation and encouragement. That's the difference.

And making them laugh. That's a plus. Not just motivating, inspire, encourage them. But you can make them giggle and laugh all of a sudden, my one of my main mentors, Zig, Zig Ziglar. And he'd always tell me, Fred, every about about every seven minutes or something, you're doing a serious danger. Tell the joke. Tell the story. Break it up. People start thinking about what you just said on the serious side has to either take a note to the Start thing, what can I do on this? Wait a minute, he's telling a joke. So you start to listen to the joke. You laugh a little bit with laughter is the best medicine it releases endorphins, all these chemical changes your mindset. Obviously, we focus on you and what you're saying next. So it's just a given and I love entertainment of telling stories. And you can tell I'm not bashful. She says you're such a ham. She's if I open the door to the refrigerator, in the dark kitchen and the light comes on. I'll do a 20 minute show. Just having the spotlight on you. All of a sudden I become the entertainer I start trying to entertain, share knowledge, do whatever it takes to make that people around me happy.

Well, you know, there's something I do find quite entertaining. And it's that you have a an array of images behind you.

Yes,

catching my attention of it as you are to but what's going on there you like ships?

Oh, I love I love tall shaming steps. If you look up my book leadership with an attitude on Amazon, if you see the cover, the cover is a tall sailing ship, three masted schooner. And what it is about sailing ships that excites me is that it's always been forever, a symbol of power forward yeah there. Thanks, Jimbo. And it's just a symbol of power, moving forward a way to change your sales. If you're going the wrong direction, you got to change your sales to go whatever we're doing in life, we got to change your sails to move with that direction. So when I look at those sales, and I see I see power, and ships and all of these plates, these are some of those, they come with a certificate of authenticity by the way, they're not worth a darn, except to me. They're beautiful plates. They have beautiful chips on it and the picture in the middle of the ship. And if you notice over here, I guess over this way over here on this side. That's a picture of course USS Enterprise, Kirk. And then of course, on the other side is my my piano my guitars over there. I'm still playing music I still love to write songs. And so the same ship is just a symbol of power moving forward, change your sails when you need to change direction and teamwork. That ship cannot go anywhere without a crew knowing exactly what they need to trim the mind sail trip you know you watch these sailing contests on TV and stuff you know they'd have these big huge yacht things going on. This crew has got to be sharp they got to be on on the button same way with those ships back then you had to have that teamwork Yeah dad that group of people around you that make that ship go. So that's why the ship to me is just positive and these guys behind me they just encouraged me I walk I can I sit in my living room over there with this door to my study here and I can look through there can see these plates on I was looking got him. I was smart. It just makes me feel good. So that's the story behind those guys.

So what's the future?

Future is, like I said, I've already started an outline on two more books. One is called faith with an attitude, which I love the weak faith, difficult faith, and just based on the Bible, and I love doing that on a lot of on Sundays at these assisted living homes or churches and things like that. I love doing that, because it's just, and it's a lot of fun with attitude. I, I tell jokes all throughout my seminars. And if you read my books, all all my books, at the end of each chapter, I have time to laughter. Laughter is the best medicine. I'll have stuff till the job. And I do the same thing on my seminars. So I've already got outlines for those two books. One is called America with an attitude. We're going through such a crazy time, again, that we've gone through before, like a roller coaster. But there's some issues out there that are not to say, you could change this just by changing the attitude of everything, everything. I'm not going to go into that because there's too much of that. But that's what I'm already doing. It's funny because on the music side of it, over in London, people put albums together and they put three albums. And one, it's all about surfing music in the past Dick Dale, ventures and all these instrumentals used to be way back when they kind of remember that you might do well in 1963, you know, pass on a little bitty radio studio, we we get a song called the cardi to instrumental, that's a catchy tune. It's a lot of fun was number four on the charts locally for about six weeks. Great thing, and I love doing it. Well, they wanted to put that song on the album three of surface turf. And all of a sudden, here we are. Song we did in 1963 is on an album out with a bunch like Dick Dale and the ventures and a few of these others. So it's like, if you just keep going nothing quit. The legacy we leave is the thing that we do and keep doing. They say well, you're retired now said no. Do you remember reading any of the Chicken Soup for the Soul books? You're you've heard about him, right? Yeah. This sounds like it's a whole vibe. Now. Two authors, Mark Victor Hansen. And Jack Canfield wrote it. And it's just a whole bunch of stories within there. And but Mark Victor Hansen, he had to say, I love doing this, because I'm 77. They said, Well, you know, you get an upgrade and kind of hold there, you know, what are you going to do? And he would always tell people says, I'm going to live till I'm 125 years old, with an option to renew. So that's my attitude, I'm going to be kicking around doing something, I don't care what it is. If I can't do things live anymore, I got this, this right here that I can do. If I'm in a wheelchair, I can still do it. There's nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it. So what's what's my plans for the future? Keep writing, keep on trying to inspire, motivate, and encourage people to have a better attitude to change your life and especially young kids and change because they're coming up, you know, they're facing a lot of issues out here. Change your attitude, change your attitude, it revolves around, oh, well, I'll probably fail this test day. Well, wait, don't say that. That's a negative debt. All of a sudden, your mind goes in starts thinking neutral, and you start to try to think of an answer. That door shuts up, because you already told yourself, I'm gonna fail this test, I'm probably gonna pass it. Don't open up your mind just for yourself. Say no, I'm a good students have studied this stuff. I'm not talking about the lame brain that just sat there last night eating donuts and watching movies. I'm talking about the guys and the gals that studied it, you know, they know it's in there. They have to release that knowledge and let it go relax. And most of it's about their attitude. And it's how you tell yourself, you couldn't be it students, you know the stuff, you're going to learn it you're going, that's when you start making better decisions and the knowledge starts coming forward. They're always out to say there's, in my seminars, I say, if you plant corn, you're gonna get corn. You know, if you're a farmer, if you have any wisdom of agriculture, if you plant corn, you're gonna get corn. If you plant weeds and nettles, you're going to get reasonable. If you put stupid negative thoughts in your mind, your body will react to it. I don't feel good today. Well, the hormones quit work in that pituitary gland kind of shuts down your thyroid kind of relaxes and then put out what you need. If you say, You know what, I'm gonna feel good today. This is going to be great. You know what, I got a headache. I get that but it's gonna get better. I don't care about what you're feeling right now. Like you say you get up and you're right about here. Oh, six, eight. You know what? I'm gonna feel better than that. In a couple hours. I may be great. After my first cup of coffee. You can't stop me. Pick up. That's what changes your mindset. That's the passion that should keep you going for a long, long time and anybody else out there doesn't matter.

What do you think? I impacted this generation versus your generation on attitude. I believe that there, there's too much negativity in the media and the news that you can't escape. I don't care what you turn on, the media is not favorable to telling people good news. They look for the sensationalism, they always have. And they dwell on it, which they should balance it out with. There's tons and tons and tons of great things that are happening out in the world. But you don't hear about or you hear about is the shooting the drive by two babies killed in a crib, that you don't hear about, oh, my gosh, two firemen rushed in and save six kids out of a burning fire. You know, very seldom do you hear all that good stuff. There's so much going on. That's good. The balance. And I believe that the kids nowadays are getting way more of it than we did. I mean, we had, when I was growing up, we had three channels on the TV, and the channel changer. I was the remote, my dad would say, or change the channel, son. So and we had news and they would tell the stories, it would tell news, they keep you up to date. And I tell everybody stay up to date, just don't let it change your attitude. You know, not much, I cannot go over to Afghanistan, or I can't go anywhere, I cannot go there. It's changed the Ukrainian situation, I can't do anything. I can't pray for him. I can hope for the best, but I can't change it. So in my case, I say God bless them, please, don't get together. When I go vote, I'm gonna try to vote the right correct way to make sure that we get some people in it will do the right things. That's what I can do. Other than that, I might as well go up and go to the refrigerator and fix myself a ham and cheese sandwich. I can't do anything about that. So don't let it make you feel negative. I can't, you can't save the world, you can't change a lot of this negativity. So that's where I try to tell these kids. Don't let all of this negativity change your mind. I don't care what kind of neighborhood you grew up in. I can said I couldn't, you know, we didn't have a whole lot. But it was up to me to create a better life. And it doesn't matter to me what race creed or color you are. I know there's difficulties in some. But it's just like a lot of the other folks say well, no matter what color creed they are, you can get out of it. If you just want to get out, do whatever it takes to get out of it. And it takes a lot of will power. And it takes a good attitude. If you have a bad attitude about yourself lower self esteem than you. If you can't get yourself up out of it. And your destiny is not going to be as good as it should. You're beginning to resonate a lot more with some of the other people I've interviewed you talk a lot about taking responsibility. In a way.

It's up to everyone. I don't know what you grew up in. I don't know your situation. But I knew I lived in El Paso, Texas, right on the border of Florida's Mexico. And I worked with a lot of guys who had come across the border to go to work. Some of them had visas. Some of them were not legal. But they all came across why they wanted to make themselves better. They came to a place where they knew they could work could make some money. They didn't just stand on the streets across the border and beg for money. They did something to make a difference in their lives and their family's lives. And they took responsibility for doing that. They didn't just sit and wait for that to come to them. You can't do that in this way. You couldn't I don't care where you from is on this planet. I don't care what you have, you can't just wait for it to come to you. Most people didn't work. They're not born with a silver spoon in their mouth. They didn't get blessed with you know, sandwiches, they had to work for it. I don't care what they had to do. They had to struggle work, they had to go to school, they had to get an education, that was their responsibility. And the parents can take them up only so far. But then after that, you know, they can be responsible to their kids, but not for the kids. You know, gosh, they have to there's a part where each person out there I don't care, race, creed, color, nationality doesn't matter. It's up to each individual to take responsibility. And for some people, raise creeds and colors, it's a little more difficult that got to admit that. I'm not saying I'm not dumb enough to say that. Because what it takes is a desire, because there's a lot of them don't care what race creed or color it is to have become so successful and why if you read their history and their path, they come up through them, just giving it to him. They worked hard for it. They busted their bones to get to where they are, and some have to bust their bones worse. You know, I I went to college, to Texas Western College and at the time, it's University of El Paso now UTEP What I went for two years and I was not happy with the direction I was going. And I had to struggle to pay for that. Even though it was a lot less back then at the struggle for those two semesters to pay for it. But when I realized is it this isn't getting me anywhere? What else do I want to do? So I knew I was good with my hands. So I became an apprentice electrician. My dad was an electrician so that that's a good trade. So trade is trade schools. If you don't want to go to college, please get into a trade school. We need carpenters, plumbers, electricians, we need painters, we need people that know what they're doing out there to rebuild America. So take responsibility do you can do. And so because I had a journeyman, I learned to be one of my trade and I became a journeyman electrician. As long as I had that license in my pocket, I could put beans on the table, period, there was always a need for electrician here, if there wasn't here, there's one over there. There's always somebody who's building something. And if you want to and you're eager, you do it diligently, you could find work. And now I guarantee you, there's a lot of cry for that right now. So it's up to that person to get up off the couch, go find out what they can do that sometimes it might be what you want to do at the time, do what you need to do to get to the next level. You get there, you can get to the next level, then the next level and the next level. Next, I never thought I'd become a Six Sigma expert and a big huge corporation like I did. I was out of 78,000 employees, I was an elite member of 1000 those folks and a special group of highly trained people that can lead a meeting, and I would lead facilitate meetings like they're in this huge table. I have an Admiral in the Navy. On one hand, I have a janitor. On the other hand, the secretaries here, a guy here paying over here, mechanical, all these different people and create a solution to a problem. I never dreamed I was going to do that. But like I said, Start where you can do what you can. And then pretty soon your journey will take you places you never dreamed of. But it's all about, Oh, I get to do this. And then another thing I like to preach about is a lot of people say I gotta drive in that stupid traffic to get to work. Yeah, man. This job is killing me. I hate his jobs. And I see I got to go to work. I got to drive in. You have a car? Aren't you lucky, you have a car to drive. You get to go to work today in your car. I have a job a lot of people don't wish they had I get to go to work today. I get to do these things I get I'm able to I get to not get to I get to. I am so blessed today. I'm honored to be to get to be on your show it to me. It's a pleasure.

Same here. And you get into another thing to gratitude? Which is also

Yeah, well, if you don't have another fine Ziglar Zig Ziglar quote, you know, gratitude is is the highest emotion, human emotion you could ever feel. And everybody should have an attitude of gratitude is what he says. If you have this think and thinking you need a checkup from the neck up. And that's the more Ziggler Zigglerisms to sink your teeth into. And if, if you're grateful for what you have now, just like you said, Remember I told you we were kids, we go around up down the alley and find pieces of wood bent nails, try to straighten them out with a rock just so we could build a little airplane or a car. Because we didn't have money to buy one. I was grateful that we had places we could go find wouldn't been nailed that. When you have that attitude of gratitude. You can go a little bit when you say Oh, this isn't exactly the place I wanted to live. But you know if I nail this door closes shutter and paint this wall and be better. I'm grateful I have a roof over my head. Going to school I'd open up my lunchbox Oh wow. I got a bologna sandwich in here. grateful for what you have. And it pretty soon. Maybe one you take a lunch you could buy lunch a hamburger at high school. So you're not just that way. When we went on tour in 1968, we left El Paso and we ended up in Chicago, Illinois on tour doing some tour just just looking for places to play our Oregon player that the clip played the origin. He was from Chicago, so I know some people up there so we got in our bus and we had a nice 24 Passenger school bus we traded make into a band bus. We drove up to Chicago. Well, we were down to we didn't have any money. We were all six of us. There was five members and then one guy that was a recording man, he would do the volumes and stuff set the volumes out there. And we were down to nothing. We were living all in this one little bitty one room, one bathroom, motel room. That was just a shabby both cost us 10 bucks a day stay there. And I wrote a song called 1033 days on $10 living and at that point we went out we bought a huge bar of peanut butter and about four loaves of day oh bread. And we thought that while we have jam, jam sandwiches, two pieces of bread jam together, we were broke. And then we finally found a club that would we will get there, we're going to hire us in about two weeks when the other band, we would go in after the other band would finish, we were set off to the side off the stage. And we've just played low, easy going slow music for dinner. And we did that for an hour, just so they would feed us a meal. And we were grateful anyway, I woke up promises we had a place to stay. Was it great? Was it hard? Was it? Heck yeah. But then finally, we got a job there. And pretty soon we stayed there for two years and did rather well. But you got to be grateful for where you are. And that gratitude is part of your attitude, if you don't have a grateful attitude, and it won't, it it's a deterrent to get past where you are, you're not going to grow if you don't have a good attitude, and you're not grateful for what you have.

And this is one of the final questions I like to ask is it been an amazing interview. Um, if you could go back in time and speak to your younger self, what would you tell them?

Several things. One, is read. I love reading when I was a kid, I was mostly science fiction and space movies and all that I love that I would say read debt but read more successful because they were out there how to win friends and influence people, you know, all of these good things that were out there. They were there before I was born even. And Dale Carnegie and all of these folks out there, great books, I would have read those then if I could tell myself read these now, you'll be amazed that's going to change your future. That's why I tell kids now please do it. Now. The next thing I would change is I would have changed my engineering degree that I was going after college, I would change that to a music degree. I didn't know that. I thought I don't want to do this anymore. Everybody encouraged me. So well. You know, you did good at science. You're good at chemistry and all these kinds of physics, physics and stuff you liked. And I do. But to go on that course of an engineering. I didn't care for it. It was terrible. So I tell people I finished college in two years. They said really? Yes are what two years on, it's a time finished. So if I would, if I could go back, I would change it to a music degree. And really learn music. Everything I do is by ear. I read a little bit of music now. But I'm not really good at it. Everything I do is by ear I listen to a record. What was it? What's it called? I don't write music can't write notes and stuff like that. I just write it. And so that's when I think we change.

Excellent, excellent. And do you have any last words you would like to say to the audience?

Yeah, your attitude is the most important mindset you can have. And if you try your darndest, to keep it positive, it will take you places you never dreamed of. It will, it will open up doors that you never believe, then it will give you a feeling of self worth of self confidence of positivity about yourself, that there's things that you can do out there that you never believed you could do. If you just have a better attitude about where you're going, and what you're learning at the time. Like I say, if you plant corn, you're going to get corn, if you plant wheat, you're going to get weeds. So start looking for a brighter thing to do look for the best things you can appreciate what you have. And then like I said, I was my main mantras. If you change your attitude, you can change your life. I tell these folks at the beginning of my health with an attitude seminar and in the book, if you knew positively, that you can improve your health. Just by changing your attitude, wouldn't you do it? Same thing applies your life, if you positively knew and I'm telling you it was the fact, you positively knew they could change and have a better future for you and the rest of your entire life. Just by changing your attitude to a positive one. What do you do it? Show you what so do it now. So that's my message to the younger generation, change it to a better attitude. You'll be more grateful, more successful happier. Because happiness isn't just always about money or success. Success is being happy where you're at. I'm always wishing I could make more money. I have more money to do this, that and the other but I'm happy where I'm at. I'm happy. I'm very satisfied. And that's where everybody should try to be at that level of I'm okay here. I want to do better, but I have to do things to get there. So that's what I leave them with.

Excellent. All right. Thanks again, Fred. This has really been a privilege. You really gave a lot of amazing answers and you know, had a great time.

You are such an easy host you so relaxed. No pressure. Easy. Yeah. You ask great questions. They lead you into the next subject. You're an amazing awesome I appreciate it very much Jimbo. Okay.

All right. Alright, so to just send this off, I gotta give, you know, a few shout outs. The first guest is going to be Anne and Kemyana Jones Bay. One's a salon. This one's an engineer, and they both work together to kind of help teach people real estate entrepreneurship and make 6figures in their 6figure University. Next person we have is LifeWorks Systems. They basically focus on helping employee work structure growing employee work structure. And again, we're shouting them out, become a collaborative partner, it could prove you know, a good option.

Right. So there's again, there's a chance for anybody wants to learn that stuff. It's there. Yeah, all they have to do to to the Jimbo Paris show. Thanks again. Appreciate it.

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